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 Posted 13/01/2006 12:32:28 |
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The current paging control uses a post-back mechanism causing the other pages to be inaccessible to any search engine.
This is in fact not important for us (human) since the browser does the job, but for search engine bot such as Google, msn and yahoo they can't crawl the entire forum. Proof: A 6-month post (check at the last page) is talking about Streamlined registration page. If we search on Google for "Streamlined registration page site:support.instantasp.co.uk" there is no result. The page has not been indexed at all. A more recent post "Login stuck in endless loop site:support.instantasp.co.uk" is working perfectly on Google. That page got indexed because there is no need for paging. The consideration to have a forum that is indexer crawler friendly in very important!!! We have bough the developer version and from the code perspective, I know it's not a simple job but in all case it should be considered.
Running InstantASP forum with many code change.
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| Posted 13/01/2006 14:25:18 |
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Supreme Being
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That is interesting. I just searched Google for text that was deep within some long topics on my forum & they were found in Google?
The only post that I can find on this forum in regard to the "Streamlined registration page" text is at the following url : http://support.instantasp.co.uk/Topic5056-36-1.aspx. This topic only has four replies and does not display the pager. Are you refering to a different topic.
The following Google search does find topics with multiple pages : "Single Sign On site:support.instantasp.co.uk".
However, I also ran some searches on other topics in this forum with no luck...
So, it is strange indeed...
Boy, this reply sure didn't help much 
..:: Bare ::..
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| Posted 13/01/2006 14:29:58 |
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Supreme Being
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I got a little concerned about this, so I did some testing on my own forum.
I found 12 older topics that were 2 or more pages in length. I did a google search on some text that was located on the last page of each topic. Google found them all.
I'm a little more at peace now, but I'm' still not sure why some of the posts aren't Googled from this forum?
..:: Bare ::..
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| Posted 14/01/2006 11:59:59 |
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| The fact the topics is on page 2 or more do not means they are not indexed, they probably got indexed when they were on page page 1. If you have a very active forum that can create more than 1 pages between google bot scan you site, some topics will never be indexed. Our forum got converted from phpBB and we had "instantly" thousands of posts, only the first page of each forum got indexed... even after few months.
Running InstantASP forum with many code change.
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| Posted 14/01/2006 12:17:02 |
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Supreme Being
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| That does seem strange... I can understand why the paging might not get you indexed but if you click on Community Support in the breadcrumb above check out the "Importing tools" topic. It has plain Jane links to the pages there... If I remember right I think the paging controls just redirect on post back don't they?
-- http://www.the-pork.net ... highly customized version of InstantForum. 
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| Posted 14/01/2006 12:20:33 |
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Supreme Being
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oh.. yea.. I see what you mean.. if you have a very active forum and topics are bumped out of view of the first page of the view topics page then you're screwed...  Thanks for pointing this out Zyo... this is something I'm going to have to look at before going live with my new system.
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| Posted 14/01/2006 17:09:12 |
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Supreme Being
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| I'm a bit concerned about this as well after reading the posts here. I'm interested in hearing from IF support staff, especially from Ryan on how this is getting crawled. I did verify Bare's statement and found content from a second page from his forum. Which is good. Althought I'm not sure how Google is doing this because it's not a straight link. If Google is intelligent enough to crawl through asp.net default post-back pagination, it does not mean that other crawlers are as intelligent. Which is still a great concern.
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| Posted 15/01/2006 08:36:31 |
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MartialWeb (1/14/2006)
If Google is intelligent enough to crawl through asp.net default post-back pagination, it does not mean that other crawlers are as intelligent. Which is still a great concern.Actually, Google does not crall through the post-back pagination. Only the home page and the posts listed on the first page of each sub-forum are indexed. Some of the remaining posts may be indexed if they are linked by other posts; not from the pagination. This is a big issue. There is no hope of having a search engine guessing the meaning of a post-back. We are re-writing the code to use straight URLs rather than postbacks for the pagination. See http://support.genopro.com/ for the new URL-based pagination.
-- Daniel Morin
GenoPro Genealogy Software
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| Posted 15/01/2006 10:51:38 |
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Supreme Being
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This is a big issue. There is no hope of having a search engine guessing the meaning of a post-back. We are re-writing the code to use straight URLs rather than postbacks for the pagination. Yup it is... I think this topic needs moving into the Bug Reports forum.
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 Posted 15/01/2006 13:05:08 |
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| Solution is simple, I've actually did it in about 1 day of work (20 files modified). 
The paging control now render the direct | |